The Island of Guana was part of the Quaker Experiment. Discuss the pros and cons of an Island such as Guana. What are your opinions on the use of slaves to develop the land? How do economics play a part in being able to visit, live, or work on the island? Should you be able to buy utopia?
For this thread you must respond to no less than five of your cohort members. Your responses need to include supporting details for your opinion.
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Well when I looked it up, it didn't exactly say anything about it dealing with slavery. I think that it's wrong for them to use slaves to develop the island. Then again it doesn't really bother me because that was a long time ago, and the past is the past. Economics play apart in the Guana Island because you need money and other things in order for a island to be popular. I also think that you shouldn't be able to buy utopia because in my eyes the peopele who live there should be in charge of theirselves.
I believe that it is wrong for slaves to build/develop the island. That's because your controlling someones life. How would you feel if someone would just grab you, and order you to do work. To me that isn't right. I feel as though as if the people who wanted that island should have made it their own selves. With Economics, i do believe that it plays a great part in the island. That's because there are standards and systems that are needed for the foundation of it. I dont think you should be able to buy it because it's hist out of the ordinary for one thing, and too much. With what Faneesha said i do agree on the things she said. Besides the partwhere she said "Then again it doesn't really bother me because that was a long time ago, and the past is the past". I think that you should care about the history of events because some people went through things so that we wouldn't have to deal with that stuff in our life.
I believe that it's wrong to use slavery to build and island but when you think of it would you use the same system. I would not use or go about slavery but I will go about making people work for some low prices through. With their help Ecnonmics plays a part because what they build makes people want to come stay and spent lots of money on it due to the fact that the people who are in slavement started a beauitful creation. Yes there should be a system where you can buy a utopia because some people like the better things in life. I agree with Blair in Faneesha a little. But what way would they go about building the land? Also why would you like to buy a utopia? To me it's like getting away from where I used to live and now on to a better way of living.
I believe that Guana is a nice island, but is not suitable for a utopian society. I also feel that if you use slaves to fix the land they are hypocrites. The other issue that needs to be taken care of is the economics. This is because it determines the utopia's strength. I think it could be a good idea to allow people to visit, but it depends on the person. Utopias should not be bought. No one person should control its fate
I thInk tHAT It is WRonG TO HAVE SLAVES DEVOLP A ISLAND.. i FEEL THiS WAY BECAuSE NO oNE LIFE SHOULD BE CONTROOLED BY SOMEoNE ELSE...iF PEOPle reaLLy waNted tHat Island they sHould haVE MADE iT THeMSELves..I also think tHAT UTOPiA SHOuL D NoT BE solD BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHo arae theIr should own tHEMseLVES...
Well I didn't really know that the island Guana had any thing to do with slavery. But now that I do I think its wrong. I agree with Faneesha and Blair. The way they used slaves to develop an island. They just thought that they could control some bodies life to make a better land. So that they wouldn't have to do any work. I just dont think they should have been slaves they should have been works. But workers with aot of freedom. Because making them slaves is not right.
To tell you the truth I did not even know that there was an island called Guan. When I saw that Guan was a island use for slaves I cold not believe it the reason why I may say this id because It does look like the type of island. Now that I found out that this island use to be you’re for slaves I thing that this island should be use for a loving member not a utopian society because our people were hurt and killed on that island.
I believe that it is wrong to use slaves to create a utopian society if they are not allowed to live on that land. Also economic plays a major role because that is what attracts people to that society. I agree with blair and faneesha because of the statements they made. I agree with john on that you should not have to pay to live in a utopan society.
I belive that it is wrong for slaves to be used in order to develop the land. I think the only reason why they use slaves is because they didnt want to pay people for doing it. Economics play a part in it because it probably cost a lot more to build houses and the stores there are probably very expensive. I think you should not be able to buy utopia. The reason why I say this is because utopia is your definition of peace or perfect and you should not have to buy your opinion. I agree with john, blair, faneesha, and tyesha because you should not have to buy utopia and like they stated why would you want to be controlled by someone else.
Well i resurch alot about Ghana and my thoughts towards what they do to the slaves was wrong. To frocefuly use another human to do biuld what ever they want, when ever they want was wrong. Useing slaves to work unwillingfull to biuld an utopia wount make it perfect, it would just make it something our ancesters put there blood in to make it better for use.An perfect world is to be made out of love and care, you should put your heart into it not your blood .
i don't think it is fair for you to use slaves to develop the island. I don't think utopia should be bought.
Well personally i think that this Island will be made for certain culture because the slaves are probly not allowed due to the fact that they devolped this land and the owners of this land probaly would not want that culture that was slave on this land. That is not an Utopian Society. This Island may be a bad location for many problems is the food enviroment wealthy is weather, water, electricty okay. The economics of this is great when you want to travel to Guana is expensive. And the cost to visit there it will help this Island economiclly successed. I dont this Island she be bought because no one not experience living in a utopian society. But, I also think it should be boughtg because if only certain culture allowed to be present on the Island then there is no Utopia Love.
Well personally i think that this Island will be made for certain culture because the slaves are probly not allowed due to the fact that they devolped this land and the owners of this land probaly would not want that culture that was slave on this land. That is not an Utopian Society. This Island may be a bad location for many problems is the food enviroment wealthy is weather, water, electricty okay. The economics of this is great when you want to travel to Guana is expensive. And the cost to visit there it will help this Island economiclly successed. I dont this Island she be bought because no one not experience living in a utopian society. But, I also think it should be boughtg because if only certain culture allowed to be present on the Island then there is no Utopia Love.
They should find a new way to create a utopian society. Using slaves will ultimatly lead to a dystopian society.You should not have to pay for a utopian society. It just doesn't seem natural to buy your way into something.
For a place to be a Utopia I believe that it should be a land for all people. To have African American slaves develop the land that much specify that they are only fit to labor there not work there. Economy is a huge factor in this though. It's all about money that's why one must pay a large amount of money to stay there. That can't be a utopia. If the land was bought what makes this piece of land a Utopia? What distinguishes this particular piece of land from another that is bought?
Tyesha: i agree with the statement Tyesha made. She was absolutely correct when she said that if it is their Utopia they should have developed it themselves. By having Africans develop their land they are undermining one race and putting the other on a pedestal like our ancestors were only there to serve them, that can’t be the proper foundation of a Utopia.
James: James made a very valid point in saying that they were hypocrites a very "Right on the Nose" statement. It goes along with what Tyesha said.
Inae: To further expand on Inae's response, a utopia shouldn't be a land that people died on and experienced hardships on. It shouls be a land of serenity.
Monie: To call this type of society a dystopian society is sooo accurate. I agree 100%.
Blair: When you said "You should care about the history of events because some people went through things so that we wouldn't have to deal with that stuff in our life", that was really powerful and tied in really well with the topic on the slaves that were used to cultivate the land.
No, I would not use slaves to develop/build the land. I feel its only right they do it their selves. And why of all people did they have to be slaves I think that's wrong? I feel using slaves is a problem. As far as economie we would need money so that the island can be popin and people would want to come again.
Monie
I agree with monie as far as finding a new way to create a utopian society, but as far as not paying I disagree because nothing in life is free and we not going to start now.
Big tiff
I agree with big tiff because the discrimination for slave I believe is going to always be the same so it isn't going to change as much as we try.
Marquisa
I agree with marqusia with evertthing she commented on and for now we on the same page.
Tyesha
I also agree with tyesha we also are on the same page.
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